The Trial of Charles Random de Berenger, Sir Thomas Cochrane Part 122

_Lord Ellenborough._ Did he tell you at what o'clock he saw him?

_A._ Yes; at about a quarter past six.

_Q._ Did he tell you that he thought it was shocking he should be out of the Rules?

_A._ Yes, he did; that he wondered whether he had got his liberty or not.

_Q._ Did he say it was shocking he should be out of the Rules?

_A._ I cannot particularly say, whether he said it was shocking or not.

_Q._ Had you known these Smiths long?

_A._ About three years and seven months.

_Q._ You are in the habits of visiting them sometimes?

_A._ Smith came backwards and forwards to Chelsea, when his master lived at the end of the bridge.

_Q._ Have you kept up your acquaintance with them, since they lived in Chelsea?

_A._ Yes, I have.

_Q._ You are very well acquainted with them?

_A._ Yes, I am.

_Q._ Had you seen him that day, the 20th?

_A._ No; I saw him that day fortnight.

_Q._ Your husband did not stay at home to keep the birth-day of his child?

_A._ No; my husband is an ostler, and he cannot come and go at his own time.

_Q._ But he mentioned about the Rules to you, did he?

_A._ Yes, he did; he said he should enquire from Smith, the first time he saw him, whether his master had got his liberty or not.

_Q._ Had your husband an anxiety to know whether he had got his liberty or not?

_A._ No, I cannot say that he seemed anxious, but he said he wondered how he came down there.

_Henry Doyle Tragear sworn._

_Examined by Mr. Richardson._

_Q._ Do you remember being at Mr. Donithorne's house, in York-street, Westminster, in the month of February last?

_A._ Yes, I do.

_Q._ Were you staying at his house?

_A._ Yes, I was.

_Q._ Living and sleeping there?

_A._ Yes.

_Q._ When did you go there?

_A._ I went there on the 17th of February.

_Q._ On what occasion?

_A._ I let my house, No. 39, Little Queen-street, Holborn, where I had carried on the hatting business, and I went from thence to Donithorne's.

_Q._ Was it on the 17th you let your house, finally.

_A._ Yes, it was.

_Q._ Did you stay at Mr. Donithorne's until or after the Sunday following, the 20th of February?

_A._ Yes, and until this very time.

_Q._ Are you acquainted with the prisoner Mr. De Berenger?

_A._ Yes, I have seen him frequently previously to that, at Mr.

Donithorne's house.

_Q._ Do you or not, remember having seen him on Sunday the 20th of February?

_A._ Yes, very particularly on that day.

_Q._ Did you see him more than once on that day?

_A._ Yes, I saw him twice on that day.

_Q._ When was the first time you saw him?

_A._ Between nine and ten in the morning.

_Q._ When was the last time you saw him?

_A._ Between eight and nine in the evening of the same day.

_Q._ Did he stay any time when you saw him the last time on that day?